From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog and commit messages Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 19:59:33 +0300 Message-ID: <83v8fj75hm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a5wxb5sl.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87a5wxb5sl.fsf@yahoo.com> <837cs1p6bf.fsf@gnu.org> <875y7lb4k7.fsf@yahoo.com> <327d575ab075bf4e92ca00c11548a62458fec75b.camel@yandex.ru> <87r0q86zvd.fsf@yahoo.com> <87jzw06j1y.fsf@yahoo.com> <615704a18abdc3880a7e637e1903b81bcc9e50c8.camel@yandex.ru> <87zg4v69v7.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13601"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, hi-angel@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 19 19:00:12 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIEe-0003Ki-56 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 19:00:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIDy-0005lr-69; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 12:59:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIDx-0005lU-5B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 12:59:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIDw-0006AO-Lz; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 12:59:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=dY2twYtl/JXT8ISO3JY6M3qjqs3OhinDdujntszStyk=; b=GRaYWeZ/goWS Ss9wMMiinxu8Gohh2nJxcz7etgJDkRxrn5Gfsb6BSGyKhjcFHeUGsSuMmdPqaSVOS6wAohtQ4OCm3 FAgIyVFGM0moQIufUY5y0Duh70MEhHz906BiyyDX502tsgHqit0R0Nnz0XXu8hM90LXhxptsVytoF tIz2OXlPHjQH5gdARfrdwiP5o0bVbHlVinsQ+UgBaWAGcNMOyy/58y0Auo5S9ZzehBBFwum+4yjmv i0yOTAfjzsSY7AaDjBojDy/JgdWOrfHYx9HyWuKGNU9bb2Dmzi13SGFov+fb/BNMNFgOxEiEisHKF zriDAYh7XnVg1IRVzI9hpQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIDw-0007qD-5l; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 12:59:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 19 Jun 2023 14:57:23 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307056 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 14:57:23 +0300 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 19/06/2023 13:10, Po Lu wrote: > > At my organization, which uses SVN, each new revision > > is required to change only one file, and updates to ChangeLog are > > performed separately after all edits are checked in and the > > corresponding files are unlocked. This is also the same policy that was > > used by Emacs development in the CVS days, I think. > > Sounds like your organization uses a fairly antiquated workflow. > > Luckily, we're a few steps ahead now in Emacs development. Was this really an opinion worthy of making public? How is it supposed to be helpful for a serious discussion to derogate the participants? The man was asked to describe his use case, so he did it. It makes no sense to reprimand him for telling us what we asked to hear.