From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:04:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83txhbiyts.fsf@gnu.org> References: <523ED74D.4030205@online.de> <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> <87k3i8vj93.fsf@yandex.ru> <83bo3kk6hh.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh8gzee5.fsf@yandex.ru> <871u4go1bp.fsf@gmail.com> <837ge8jalb.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379934302 5011 80.91.229.3 (23 Sep 2013 11:05:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, pjb@informatimago.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 23 13:05:04 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VO3wu-00038L-8p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:05:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39665 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO3wt-0007rp-Qb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57871) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO3wb-0007Wz-Hx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:04:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO3wT-0004T2-C9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:04:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:61451) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VO3wT-0004Si-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:04:37 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTK00C00RGDG200@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:04:04 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTK00C7MS2SHV20@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:04:04 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163575 Archived-At: > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:29:46 +0200 > Cc: Jay Belanger , Brief Busters , > Pascal Bourguignon , Emacs-Devel devel > > But you still can't use arrow keys etc for selecting text from default > Emacs, or? That is a very important use of the arrow keys. If you mean hold Shift and move by arrow keys, then this selects text for quite some time now.