From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:48:46 +0200 Message-ID: <83txd1k74h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877gact76s.fsf@gnu.org> <34c8c13b-c5c6-4e5a-9248-b09d5d1936da@default> <87eh4hkq6c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <52D9E005.6030509@dancol.org> <52D9EEDD.9060109@dancol.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390034941 19945 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2014 08:49:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per@starback.se, dancol@dancol.org, rms@gnu.org, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 18 09:49:07 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4RaU-0005sn-D5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:49:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41628 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4RaT-0006aG-KH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 03:49:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39695) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4RaL-0006a2-UR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 03:49:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4RaG-0007sn-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 03:48:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:41074) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4RaA-0007sA-N8; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 03:48:46 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZL00E009JB7A00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:48:45 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZL00EU89T86B20@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:48:45 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168656 Archived-At: > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 09:35:17 +0100 > Cc: Per Starb=C3=A4ck , > =09"Richard M. Stallman" , David Kastrup = , > =09"emacs-devel@gnu.org" >=20 > > Bear in mind also that when gedit was new, Emacs didn't have > > transient-mark-mode or shift-marking on by default and it didn't = support > > bidirectional text. The Emacs configuration system is also comple= tely > > different. Would you have integrated customize with gconf? How? > > >=20 > I am not sure what you are trying to say there, Daniel, but all the= se > points looks to me like things that could be (or are now) solved. (= The > bidirectional text which Eli worked on was probably the hardest, of= course.) Gedit's bidirectional editing support is woefully inadequate. It's not enough for an editor to link against Pango/Cairo/whatever that ca= n bidi-reorder a given string, to claim that it supports bidirectional text.