From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Obscure error/warning/information message from git pull
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:43:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83tx1v97o6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m4gbru$qu9$1@ger.gmane.org>
> From: Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:57:34 +0300
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> It's the latter that I've tried to help to achieve. Sorry if I
> >> failed.
> >
> > You cannot help people understand new tools if you start by telling
> > them to forget everything they've learned. You should instead build
> > on what they know, or think they know, gradually replacing that with
> > new knowledge.
>
> Sorry, but I really think that to better understand Git, one should
> forget, at least temporarily, some things she learned from other VCSes.
Then we will have to agree to disagree.
> >> My point is that branch name doesn't represent anything else but
> >> particular reference to particular commit in Git.
> >
> > No, it also represents all the previous commits made on that branch
> > that are reachable through first-parents.
>
> Well, given the following history (time goes from left to right):
>
> - C - D <- foo
> /
> ... - A - B
> \
> - E - F <- bar
>
>
> what branch commit A was made on, 'foo' or 'bar'?
Depends on when each one of the branches was created, of course.
> You see, you should have had no "made on that branch" in your
> description, provided you describe Gits' idea of a branch, not your one,
> as Git does not remember on what branch commit was made.
But that's the whole point of our disagreement: I'm talking about what
human users mean when they say "branch", while you keep talking about
what Git means. When you try to explain to a human something that
involves branches, you had better did it in human terms, not program
implementation terms. AKA "concept" vs "implementation".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-19 3:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-14 12:06 Obscure error/warning/information message from git pull Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-14 13:10 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 13:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 14:14 ` Andrew Burgess
2014-11-14 18:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-14 18:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 20:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-14 20:41 ` Christoph
2014-11-14 20:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 22:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-15 7:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-15 19:40 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-15 21:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-15 22:02 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-16 9:10 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-20 2:56 ` Rob Browning
2014-11-14 20:50 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 20:57 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-14 21:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 23:56 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2014-11-15 7:36 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-14 23:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-14 23:17 ` David Engster
2014-11-15 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15 8:18 ` David Engster
2014-11-15 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 23:40 ` David Caldwell
2014-11-15 7:40 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15 9:12 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 9:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15 10:28 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15 14:30 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-15 18:17 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 12:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-15 14:35 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 15:57 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2014-11-15 16:56 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-15 19:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-15 20:48 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-16 9:33 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-16 9:23 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-16 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 15:47 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-16 13:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-16 15:26 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-16 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 16:16 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-16 16:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-16 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-16 20:24 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-17 11:54 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-17 14:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-18 16:59 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-18 17:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 17:58 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-18 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 18:40 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-18 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 20:57 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-18 22:43 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-19 0:48 ` Barry Warsaw
2014-11-19 9:50 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 1:12 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-19 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:39 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-19 16:49 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-19 4:48 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-11-19 6:57 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 13:55 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-11-19 8:22 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-11-19 12:14 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-19 13:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-19 15:00 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 15:15 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-19 15:24 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-19 15:36 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 16:00 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-19 16:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-20 0:57 ` Alexis
2014-11-20 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:36 ` Sergey Organov
2014-11-19 18:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 18:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 20:05 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-20 3:01 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-20 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 18:29 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-11-18 23:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-18 23:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-19 1:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-11-18 21:59 ` John Yates
2014-11-19 3:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 10:08 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-19 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 22:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 16:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 21:04 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-14 13:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 13:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-14 14:08 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 15:51 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 15:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-14 20:41 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-14 20:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 15:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 17:03 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2014-11-14 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 17:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 21:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-14 21:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-14 21:18 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-14 21:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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