From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Speed of keyboard macro execution? Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:57:09 +0200 Message-ID: <83twnn5z4a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20151209163954.0cefcc7f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87si3bcltu.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151209180343.5a67c0e7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r3iu9rvp.fsf@gnu.org> <86egesbegr.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <83a8pg6rpv.fsf@gnu.org> <86zixfa84r.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449943037 22194 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2015 17:57:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 17:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Joseph Mingrone Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 12 18:57:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7oPt-0006jx-Pw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 18:57:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52611 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7oPt-0003zB-Bc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:57:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58139) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7oPq-0003yz-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:57:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7oPn-00048V-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:57:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7oPn-00048R-06; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1589 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a7oPm-0003ns-4J; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:57:02 -0500 In-reply-to: <86zixfa84r.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> (message from Joseph Mingrone on Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:28:52 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196169 Archived-At: > From: Joseph Mingrone > Cc: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:28:52 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > After all, how frequently do you need to edit files with lines in > > excess of 11K characters? > > The lines in the file are 1454 characters long and there are 3870 of > them. The text said 1454 "cells", so I multiplied that by the number of characters in each number (8). Apologies if I misunderstood, but the demo didn't really supply enough info to be sure. > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > That's not what the text there says. It says that mg is simpler, but > > faster, and gives this particular example of how it is faster. The > > impression that a naïve observer will end up after that is that Emacs > > is simply unworkable, since it cannot even scroll through a file in > > some reasonably short time. > > I neither wrote nor said that mg was faster. Really? The demo says it implements only part of the features of GNU Emacs, but in return i is "more efficient and fast". If that doesn't mean mg is faster, then what does it mean?