From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Missing frame parameters on tty's Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:07:46 +0200 Message-ID: <83twmaddel.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20151202221534.GC2318@acm.fritz.box> <83vb8ghtnx.fsf@gnu.org> <20151203083001.GA2136@acm.fritz.box> <83oae7j07y.fsf@gnu.org> <20151203111815.GE2136@acm.fritz.box> <83lh9bix4k.fsf@gnu.org> <20160118160213.GA3390@acm.fritz.box> <83ziw2dg0y.fsf@gnu.org> <20160118170332.GB3390@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453136875 4749 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2016 17:07:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 18 18:07:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDHQ-0000Yw-Pl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:07:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60956 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDHP-0003vt-TF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:07:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDHM-0003vW-52 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:07:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDHI-0005Ly-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:07:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDHI-0005Lu-PN; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:07:40 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1327 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aLDHI-0000GU-0v; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:07:40 -0500 In-reply-to: <20160118170332.GB3390@acm.fritz.box> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:03:32 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198262 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:03:32 +0000 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > I'd suggest something like > > > (Note that none of these parameters exist on text-mode frames.) > > OK, but I'm not too keen on "text-mode" frames - there's a danger of > confusion with the major mode of that name. How about: > > (Note that none of these parameters exist on text terminal frames.} > > , using the original term "text terminal", but keeping the sentence in > parenteses? After all, the main purpose is to alert Emacs Lisp hackers > to the possibility of these frame parameters being nil; exactly when > they are going to be nil is of secondary importance. The official terminology is "TTY frames" or "text-mode frames". But I won't insist.