From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 26.1 release branch created Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 10:17:15 +0300 Message-ID: <83tvzvcidg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83377mls4d.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919173511.GA19168@ACM> <20170921205447.GA8240@ACM> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506064658 22789 195.159.176.226 (22 Sep 2017 07:17:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 22 09:17:32 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dvIDK-0005Wm-TT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:17:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57035 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvIDS-0004Hx-4j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 03:17:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58513) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvIDL-0004He-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 03:17:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvIDH-0000Ba-Js for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 03:17:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvIDH-0000BH-Fw; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 03:17:27 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3478 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dvIDA-000148-6O; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 03:17:20 -0400 In-reply-to: <20170921205447.GA8240@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:54:47 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218678 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:54:47 +0000 > From: Alan Mackenzie > Cc: Richard Stallman > > I have pushed a first draught into the new branch > scratch/customize-quotes. Comments would be welcome. > > One thing which I hope isn't too controversial, is that I have redefined > the value of nil in text-quoting-style to mean "no translation of > quotes" and introduced t to mean "prefer curved quotes", the meaning nil > previously had. The default value for text-quoting-style remains > "prefer curved quotes". This _is_ controversial, since it means we are introducing a backward incompatible change. > My reasoning here was that having nil meaning "do nothing" is > intrinsically the Right Thing. Also very few people, if any, will > already have explicitly set the variable to nil. And in any case, the > use of the variable was restricted to experts, all of whom will be able > to adapt to the new nil and t without difficulty. IMO, this reasoning is too weak to justify the incompatible change.