From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 21:49:05 +0300 Message-ID: <83tvmpgtwe.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh2ih0bp.fsf@fastmail.fm> <770f48a8-664a-40ae-8e03-19f6aad248b6@default> <20180910181615.GA4829@ACM> <874lev3bq4.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20180912131602.GA5582@ACM> <87d0tihxzw.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20180913174640.GB4019@ACM> <8736udkuit.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20180914104833.GA4103@ACM> <83k1nojgia.fsf@gnu.org> <874leq799e.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <205df9be-2e5c-4cc4-a13a-7c80eb63bedc@default> <87in363zgq.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <87a7oh4mdm.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <831s9tidjc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1537123744 19907 195.159.176.226 (16 Sep 2018 18:49:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 18:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, drew.adams@oracle.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 16 20:48:59 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g1c6L-00050d-Mh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:48:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59942 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1c8S-0000Mw-0l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:51:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1c7f-0000Mo-D9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:50:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1c7d-0001zk-JD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:50:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33160) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1c6a-0007rQ-D6; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:49:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2399 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g1c6Z-00066t-QD; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 14:49:12 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Yuri Khan on Mon, 17 Sep 2018 01:20:19 +0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229860 Archived-At: > From: Yuri Khan > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 01:20:19 +0700 > Cc: hw@adminart.net, Drew Adams , spacibba@aol.com, > Joost Kremers , Noam Postavsky , > Emacs developers , Alan Mackenzie , > Phillip Lord > > The point of persistent blocks is that you can mark a region and leave > it for a while before actually doing something to it. It is not a goal > to be able to mark a block somewhere far away without ever leaving > your position. > > So: you move point to one end, press a key (or hold down Shift), move > to the other end, press another key (or release Shift), move to the > target position, press an action key (C-k c for copy, C-k v for move). > All without killing anything. Very pacifistic. And how, may I ask, you then indicate which of the "blocks" is to be acted upon by some command? More to the point, what does this feature have to do with delete-selection-mode and transient-mark-mode, and the issues we have with their mix? Or did this discussion wandered away without hope?