From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A project-files implementation for Git projects Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 15:59:07 +0300 Message-ID: <83tv97run8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8736h9rdc4.fsf@gnu.org> <87mufcfz1u.fsf@gnu.org> <87tv9kz2x6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7bbjdwe.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7ba8uvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnk2zvvy.fsf@gnu.org> <838sqpx9eq.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2yow9dy.fsf@gnu.org> <838sqnw2na.fsf@gnu.org> <3007947f-f4eb-e3e8-8c14-1b372323aa1c@yandex.ru> <831rwfvzd6.fsf@gnu.org> <64bcedbf-d891-dcad-ac65-5719920f58e2@yandex.ru> <83k1a4tct2.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="25670"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 20 15:05:47 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iBIba-0006X3-5r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 15:05:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59348 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iBIbV-0002to-JM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:05:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50108) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iBIV8-00083k-RL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iBIV7-0007RJ-Jq; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4775 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iBIV5-00077N-L2; Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:59:04 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:25:03 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:240183 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 14:25:03 +0300 > > On 19.09.2019 20:29, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > The problem is not in Emacs, it's in inotify etc. Their documentation > > explicitly says that events cab legitimately lost. > > I *think* a handler can deal with that in a way No, it cannot, because the events are lost before they reach the Emacs event queue. Unless, that is, you mean by "handler" something that is outside Emacs, in which case I see no way for Emacs to control how such a "handler" behaves. > > I don't really feel like continuing the rest of the discussion, as you > > clearly don't care about my views on this. Whatever. > > I'm sorry, we're probably speaking different languages. I think I've > been explaining how some things I could guess you wanted me to do are > not feasible. "Not feasible". You are, in effect, saying that I have no real idea what I'm talking about. And that's exactly the issue at hand. Sorry, I can no longer afford discussions in which replies are posted after two, sometimes 3 or 4 days, and in which each of my arguments, no matter how minor, always gets contradicted with counter-arguments, with context stripped so thoroughly that I need to go back 2, 3, sometimes even 4 messages back to even begin to understand how we arrived to that. You never even _try_ to compromise, let alone see the issue from my POV. It's as if anything I say that doesn't match your opinion is in advance deemed invalid. There's no hope of any agreement. That isn't a kind of argument I can afford spending my time on, sorry. So I will have to stop trying to do my job of being a co-maintainer in these cases.