From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Repurpose one key and reserve it for third-party packages Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 19:43:50 +0200 Message-ID: <83tuqljfvt.fsf@gnu.org> References: <7ef75c33936136eb3a20@heytings.org> <87tuqmli7l.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1lpk6ao.fsf@gnus.org> <87im7141wc.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33384"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 18:49:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X8T-0008ak-43 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 18:49:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40402 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X8S-0004sA-6S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:49:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59158) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X3T-000105-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:44:03 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X3T-0002PH-0c; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:44:03 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3786 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l9X3I-0005WC-Um; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:43:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87im7141wc.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (message from Sean Whitton on Tue, 09 Feb 2021 09:54:59 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264229 Archived-At: > From: Sean Whitton > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 09:54:59 -0700 > Cc: Gregory Heytings , > Stefan Kangas , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Aren't the current bindings under M-o intended for that halcyon future > in which we can use Emacs as a word processor, not just a text editor? > Like enriched-mode, but for file formats like .odt, where buffer faces > set with M-o get translated into something in the file format upon save. > > I assume that most of the bindings under M-o were made with that sort of > usage of Emacs in mind. It strikes me as a bit sad to unbind M-o as it > would sort of be saying that we no longer think Emacs is ever going to > be much use for editing non-plain text. We could make these bindings local to the modes where they are relevant, for example Text mode and its descendants. There's no need for a global binding, at least not necessarily.