From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-28 6d3608be88: Seccomp: improve support for newer versions of glibc (Bug#51073) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:08:34 +0200 Message-ID: <83tudshvb1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <164286838577.8429.4021499312049157333@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220122161946.44098C0DA30@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <877daqq9kp.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17241"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, phst@google.com, p.stephani2@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 13:23:25 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKr5-0004Km-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:23:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57440 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKr4-00017B-GK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:23:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55348) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKd3-000415-Nm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:08:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=60938 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKd3-0001BK-7u; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:08:53 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=BSUt0GfUMaiQ3s4d9l2T4pgKrq/Kin5T8NbxFkVCXXw=; b=VXtFfSilATBI 8R6xBs4X+aITu/t3pQY4J5Um+r2X3yClFEsKZHB1S1YVu9ntHHQet8WLN8A3ln+KcMrSujYJTXwEN b9obg6IEos1xsK+aUDYtDCTfLs6L6ySkg/XwWuG0s6pnSNh2IJvrdBNtqTHVHHB+y668VER1qQ/YP QL75hAh50plvIkgQepIdo4C6EMayW1/ukvNKw7xuub9MLDM65eL3noh8aAG8pXybhOMCQ/85Ka9Dg O4szE0TieS/S+/3wQj3WQgCpBIIMQfuJdPL0nnPxAP2YOTfJ+tej0b6KcxBlnbODT0zGTjiOeIEVh k4pJVzNWCFNpsaHJ1y2XLw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3791 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nCKcv-0006nL-QY; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 07:08:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:16:03 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285359 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:16:03 -0500 > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, phst@google.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > That can happen any day, if glibc folks make some change we didn't > > know about. We cannot chase glibc development forever, we will never > > succeed catching up with them, certainly not in the long run. > > It's true that problems like this can happen any day. Not just with > Glibc but with lots of libraries that Emacs uses. But that has been > the case for many years. Are things getting worse in some way? If frequent changes to glibc cause Emacs to crash, that is bad. Emacs should not have such a critical dependency on changes in the library, and it shouldn't be that fragile.