From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unifying "foo-mode"s and "foo-ts-mode"s Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 17:42:58 +0200 Message-ID: <83tu1c6got.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877cyagmti.fsf@posteo.net> <831qoi85u7.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt76f4n4.fsf@posteo.net> <83sfgy6l0n.fsf@gnu.org> <877cy9b1k0.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <87wn69oy1c.fsf@thornhill.no> <87edsh9gzn.fsf@posteo.net> <87tu1dowpp.fsf@thornhill.no> <87o7rl7x4i.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1185"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: theo@thornhill.no, emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 16:43:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pBHXa-0000At-Mi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 16:43:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBHXA-0000ff-MZ; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:43:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBHX9-0000fW-GM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBHX9-00020a-2b; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:42:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=CPCeHeU4ExuZy9JL3JoezSbps88e829hjYc8RVfvvUI=; b=doEQzH82ANDq G1AmqaJhmM1I9AXEQDsVny+r7LJB4Yl1a3vdWBRhUEuvD248eXE+MKNrVqIf/do6f+zo1izeoyEFQ exCVDEHWyexwR0E4QEyVX+0h8OmoUU41N+MwPUMEUM0Ui5cWDvadG4Wgi1yb37d4OTSZsGvRiOt9w yEZT+LrQW4tpDZ/C/PsWDTgSJ0dIVD/YQ8NoFjfHlf1r38rk6XGyinBNOiOSKtSReu6ExnuUfxKcD EXW2PwaSsnugsCTye8DI0oHx5LG4yfSw/2XutFleJwZvKn4622/Aa8nTvKVGpH2Lsa5A/38VL9WOu ShY8nPe+h/cV06+0DQ1z0A==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pBHX8-0006QZ-Iu; Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:42:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87o7rl7x4i.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Fri, 30 Dec 2022 15:02:37 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302118 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Yuan Fu > > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 15:02:37 +0000 > > Yes, I do understand this point, yet my impression has been that this > was not always necessary. The relative complexity of cc-mode might > necessitate a separate mode, but I don't see why that should be the rule > instead of an exception? CC Mode means C, C++, and Java already. If these 3 are separate modes, how to make your proposal work for them and for the others as well, in a way that is (1) convenient and easily understood by users, and (2) simple and safe enough to implement so that we don't inadvertently screw existing modes?