From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: contributing to Emacs Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 12:43:56 +0300 Message-ID: <83ttv5nm03.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8fnh1h2.fsf@web.de> <83mt0zs9rc.fsf@gnu.org> <0a968a4e1b267c0f15dd237e6ea12a709fc06d5e.camel@yandex.ru> <838rcisj7o.fsf@gnu.org> <6537fa5fa5c1fe8437ed99ee0988e35895f5a54b.camel@yandex.ru> <8423a35750d8d8e0437c7708f6b4d0bbdfdb7fe0.camel@yandex.ru> <87o7ldf7ky.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10922"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: hi-angel@yandex.ru, ams@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 18 11:44:30 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qAoxS-0002Zk-5A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:44:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAoww-0003ml-EA; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 05:43:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAowu-0003mV-He for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 05:43:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAowt-0008Lo-Tq; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 05:43:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=gy0lcl+L6fbzs5rKmO2IOrcQiWFEH0X1p8AHuf0+h8g=; b=MYwZoBE5LMiB 4ZRRrpG/gEjZrNHEe7Q0Z+qrvFpoDHrM6OgeUrWQHrQIpd6edqdL5m8EYYd6osJ25aibZLCT5RCcM 7qx5cPX8+AG0riHUPcZDP3TBJ0PvLISkemsSl9A2rdIdYV3sURvWvim+ZypPOb9QE4d6yDgEb4VLQ 0vAA2YCWLqh3Of01rTJMr8msUlHNAYHvXsnDy9o+ihbj9wY23a0MQ+V866UGFPUZmAYBK7LpXQUtJ XSYTziGtq41OlVfWc6gR/6STNazW7W4FdhBgy+ZBYFddzWvaClizpCXK4XcS/regzbTmsQe8zUjJ2 CMcryQpmyP8otO+WSbXbYA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAowt-0003d0-BM; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 05:43:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87o7ldf7ky.fsf@web.de> (arne_bab@web.de) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306937 Archived-At: > From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" > Cc: "Alfred M. Szmidt" , eliz@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 10:59:42 +0200 > > > And then if that's not enough, from what I've seen maintainers also > > expect you to have read CONTRIBUTE section, which is absolutely large, > > much bigger than "Sending patches". (to be fair, if you are a new > > contributor, you won't know it exists because "Sending patches" has no > > mention of it). > > Same here. I see quite a bit of explanation in the CONTRIBUTE file that > makes that longer than the information a contributor really has to know. People keep asking for more and more details to be described there, so what you expect doesn't stand the test of time and user expectations. It is clear that you personally may not need everything there, but CONTRIBUTE is not for you and me, or others like we. > For a github project (to name the elefant in the room) you also have to > know the URL, but there it feels easier. Can we make that easier in the > existing infrastructure? Type "gnu emacs" into an Internet search window. The first result will likely to be the Emacs site. Click on "Documentation & Support" and read there. How hard is that? Are we perhaps making a mountain out of a proverbial molehill?