From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 16:16:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83ttseava1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87o7j99304.fsf@dfreeman.email> <97224c4f-fad4-ae01-46c1-5755d97d9a92@gutov.dev> <87fs3ztq38.fsf@localhost> <87cyz3qwba.fsf@posteo.net> <8734zztmiz.fsf@localhost> <87sf7zqs3l.fsf@yahoo.com> <87il8vs6e7.fsf@localhost> <87jztbqrc9.fsf@yahoo.com> <877cpbs5a0.fsf@localhost> <87fs3zqqgj.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jkfs4o0.fsf@localhost> <87y1hroz47.fsf@posteo.net> <83cyz2ctp0.fsf@gnu.org> <87msy6rzeg.fsf@localhost> <83wmxab0ym.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8cuqg8d.fsf@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38421"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, philipk@posteo.net, luangruo@yahoo.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 01 15:17:14 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qc41R-0009qu-LR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 15:17:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc40x-0003Gi-EA; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:16:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc40v-0003GI-50 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:16:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc40s-00041K-St; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:16:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=7kEOXuBkQUEmM62P2OS/f/7f6Mk4NB/SReFFIJjaDBQ=; b=nbYFiqKr4+X6 Nts4L8c+JCIuO41+RONKthJ4pVEqUn9YTRzjQpGY/TV6+0jTh4/zSZmTpt1yUWpgBnvccPHBdtgJP fNAZYC/FKsDoj+c1xIACEuPjJq5dBpv+hzTieoDRznwLPDt91FC9bPntZt/7FKCGuYSPhAf+mbkgj J4L0DBoLtcyKqiueYLQbDhHcnDV+va49BMDWj5KgdDswgfe6lahX53AWoBMV7FYZLT2uuoCJdHj8D 6SeydA/34rv5EAFo1wm7nC3qtfdefNX1lLUm3610Fw9YWoHStBuOqZMBpjAwLMUmn7NRfKpZx9PRT TWt7OXkTdEGTxsm2CTnlIQ==; In-Reply-To: <87v8cuqg8d.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Fri, 01 Sep 2023 11:34:42 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309776 Archived-At: > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, philipk@posteo.net, > luangruo@yahoo.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 11:34:42 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Confirm. I use Github mostly via email, exactly how you described. > >> The annoying thing is inability to open new issues via email, though > >> "forge" package allows to do it from Emacs. > > > > Is that all that annoys you about GitHub's email? What about the fact > > that you get a lot of useless notifications that cannot be selectively > > turned off? > > I can turn them off selectively in my MUA. > IMHO, this is not any different from how I approach mailing lists - most > of the discussions on ML are not interesting to me and I simply filter > them out. I think Gnus scoring is relevant (although I use different > approach). How is this consistent with complaints about the difficulties of using a MUA in sophisticated ways? > > Users of GitHub don't write their posts thinking about email > > recipients, they evidently assume that everyone is looking at the > > discussion via a Web browser. Therefore, the email notifications are > > no more than indications of "something happened", they don't support > > intelligent and efficient participation in the discussion without the > > need of reading all of it via the browser. > > I do not find much difference when reading Github discussion from > browser vs. from email. They are equally flat in both cases, sometimes > creating confusion. Really? Just look at this discussion: each message clearly shows to what it responds by quoting that text.