From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, public@thanosapollo.org
Subject: Re: Turning on savehist-mode by default
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:31:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ttp47ncn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a6d16c5-90ff-4c5b-be0f-cd19c272eada@alphapapa.net> (message from Adam Porter on Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:07:46 -0600)
> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:07:46 -0600
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, public@thanosapollo.org
> From: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
>
> FWIW, IME, it may not be a good idea to enable savehist-mode by default.
> As an example, see this issue report on Ement.el's repository:
>
> https://github.com/alphapapa/ement.el/issues/216
>
> The gist is that, for users who enabled savehist, it was saving the
> variable command-history, which included some complex commands whose
> arguments (from interactive completion) included large data structures
> (which are hidden from the user when called interactively). This
> resulted in savehist files hundreds of MB in size and very noticeable
> pauses whenever savehist saved its data, from timers and upon Emacs exit.
>
> The worst part was how long it took to discover the source of the
> problem. There were intermittent reports of weird pauses for months,
> without any discernible reason, until a user finally narrowed it down to
> using savehist. Then we had to add this hacky workaround in Ement to
> try to automatically avoid the problem.
>
> Such cases may be rare (or not--I can't say), but when it happens, it
> seems to be a bear to deal with, being very unintuitive. For myself,
> even having written a number of Emacs packages, I wasn't yet aware of
> the command-history variable and how it saves arguments, and certainly
> not the implications of using savehist as well.
savehist provides a customizable ability to limit the number of
history entries saved for each variable.
We could also add a new feature which limits the size of individual
entry: entries longer than that will not be saved.
Patches welcome.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-29 12:31 UTC|newest]
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2023-11-18 14:54 Turning on savehist-mode by default sbaugh
2023-11-18 16:33 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-18 18:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-18 21:06 ` Drew Adams
2023-11-18 21:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-18 23:01 ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 6:56 ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19 7:05 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-19 7:32 ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-19 8:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 9:06 ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-19 9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 15:09 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20 9:53 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 12:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 13:15 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 14:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-23 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-23 16:31 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 16:57 ` Drew Adams
2023-11-20 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 18:54 ` Drew Adams
2023-11-20 19:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 16:42 ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19 16:42 ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19 16:27 ` Visuwesh
2023-11-19 17:33 ` sbaugh
2023-11-19 6:59 ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 7:27 ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 8:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 14:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 14:38 ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 14:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-20 0:11 ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 15:17 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20 0:09 ` Po Lu
2023-11-20 3:15 ` sbaugh
2023-11-20 3:40 ` Po Lu
2023-11-20 14:32 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20 5:55 ` [OT] Not clobbering bash history brickviking
2023-11-20 17:50 ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-22 3:01 ` [OT] " Richard Stallman
2023-11-22 3:32 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-25 2:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-26 10:20 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-12-04 3:10 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-04 13:05 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-12-08 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-16 18:56 ` Turning on savehist-mode by default Stefan Kangas
2023-11-20 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-20 3:16 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-28 11:04 ` Thanos Apollo
2023-11-28 14:11 ` Thanos Apollo
2023-11-28 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-28 21:07 ` Adam Porter
2023-11-28 21:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-29 12:31 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-12-01 1:50 ` Björn Bidar
2023-12-16 19:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-16 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-16 22:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-16 23:57 ` Po Lu
2023-12-17 5:42 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17 7:49 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-17 11:09 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-22 10:45 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-22 11:48 ` Visuwesh
2023-12-22 11:52 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-22 14:22 ` Yuri Khan
2023-12-17 12:02 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17 8:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 11:19 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17 12:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-19 3:49 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-17 18:48 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-12-17 7:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 11:48 ` Po Lu
2023-12-17 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 13:31 ` Po Lu
2023-12-17 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 17:55 ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 19:51 ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 20:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 20:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 20:38 ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 20:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 21:47 ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 22:22 ` Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:55 ` Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 22:34 ` Drew Adams
2023-12-18 0:47 ` Po Lu
2023-12-18 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 10:03 ` tomas
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