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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, public@thanosapollo.org
Subject: Re: Turning on savehist-mode by default
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 14:31:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ttp47ncn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a6d16c5-90ff-4c5b-be0f-cd19c272eada@alphapapa.net> (message from Adam Porter on Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:07:46 -0600)

> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:07:46 -0600
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, public@thanosapollo.org
> From: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
> 
> FWIW, IME, it may not be a good idea to enable savehist-mode by default. 
>   As an example, see this issue report on Ement.el's repository:
> 
> https://github.com/alphapapa/ement.el/issues/216
> 
> The gist is that, for users who enabled savehist, it was saving the 
> variable command-history, which included some complex commands whose 
> arguments (from interactive completion) included large data structures 
> (which are hidden from the user when called interactively).  This 
> resulted in savehist files hundreds of MB in size and very noticeable 
> pauses whenever savehist saved its data, from timers and upon Emacs exit.
> 
> The worst part was how long it took to discover the source of the 
> problem.  There were intermittent reports of weird pauses for months, 
> without any discernible reason, until a user finally narrowed it down to 
> using savehist.  Then we had to add this hacky workaround in Ement to 
> try to automatically avoid the problem.
> 
> Such cases may be rare (or not--I can't say), but when it happens, it 
> seems to be a bear to deal with, being very unintuitive.  For myself, 
> even having written a number of Emacs packages, I wasn't yet aware of 
> the command-history variable and how it saves arguments, and certainly 
> not the implications of using savehist as well.

savehist provides a customizable ability to limit the number of
history entries saved for each variable.

We could also add a new feature which limits the size of individual
entry: entries longer than that will not be saved.

Patches welcome.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-18 14:54 Turning on savehist-mode by default sbaugh
2023-11-18 16:33 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-18 18:19   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-18 21:06     ` Drew Adams
2023-11-18 21:42       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-18 23:01         ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19  6:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19  6:56             ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19  7:05           ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-19  7:32             ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-19  8:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19  9:06                 ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-19  9:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 15:09                   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20  9:53                 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 12:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 13:15                     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 14:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-23 15:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-23 16:31                           ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-20 16:57                     ` Drew Adams
2023-11-20 18:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 18:54                         ` Drew Adams
2023-11-20 19:16                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 16:42               ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19 16:42             ` Drew Adams
2023-11-19 16:27         ` Visuwesh
2023-11-19 17:33           ` sbaugh
2023-11-19  6:59 ` Po Lu
2023-11-19  7:10   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19  7:27     ` Po Lu
2023-11-19  8:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 14:08   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 14:38     ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 14:43       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-20  0:11         ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 15:17       ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20  0:09         ` Po Lu
2023-11-20  3:15           ` sbaugh
2023-11-20  3:40             ` Po Lu
2023-11-20 14:32               ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-20  5:55         ` [OT] Not clobbering bash history brickviking
2023-11-20 17:50           ` Juri Linkov
2023-11-22  3:01           ` [OT] " Richard Stallman
2023-11-22  3:32             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-25  2:58               ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-26 10:20                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-12-04  3:10                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-04 13:05                     ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-12-08  3:54                       ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-16 18:56   ` Turning on savehist-mode by default Stefan Kangas
2023-11-20  3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-20  3:16   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-28 11:04 ` Thanos Apollo
2023-11-28 14:11   ` Thanos Apollo
2023-11-28 14:38   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-28 21:07     ` Adam Porter
2023-11-28 21:46       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-29 12:31       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-12-01  1:50 ` Björn Bidar
2023-12-16 19:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-16 19:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-16 22:57     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-16 23:57       ` Po Lu
2023-12-17  5:42         ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17  7:49           ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-17 11:09             ` Adam Porter
2023-12-22 10:45               ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-22 11:48                 ` Visuwesh
2023-12-22 11:52                 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-22 14:22                   ` Yuri Khan
2023-12-17 12:02             ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17  8:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 11:19             ` Adam Porter
2023-12-17 12:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-19  3:49                 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-17 18:48           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-12-17  7:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 11:48           ` Po Lu
2023-12-17 12:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 13:31               ` Po Lu
2023-12-17 13:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 17:55                   ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 18:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 19:51                       ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 20:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 20:21                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 20:38                           ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 20:52                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 21:12                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:16                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 21:47                                   ` Juergen Fenn
2023-12-17 22:22                                     ` Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:55                                   ` Drew Adams
2023-12-17 21:57                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-17 22:34                                       ` Drew Adams
2023-12-18  0:47                           ` Po Lu
2023-12-18  3:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17  7:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 10:03         ` tomas

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