From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:29:33 +0200 Message-ID: <83sjj92vsi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20120118.161204.348826368.wl@gnu.org> <20248.15413.907023.894588@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4x1uqv4pbx.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <056566D61BA5441E860782777E736F44@us.oracle.com> <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> <20120120074922.GA3095@acm.acm> <4F1929BA.7020004@cs.ucla.edu> <838vl24thl.fsf@gnu.org> <4F19E7FC.40301@cs.ucla.edu> <20120121085905.GA3075@acm.acm> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327141791 5358 80.91.229.12 (21 Jan 2012 10:29:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:29:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 21 11:29:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYCe-0003LD-W9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:29:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43847 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYCe-0001wl-7k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:29:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYCb-0001wQ-Ma for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:29:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYCa-0006Vp-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:29:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:58715) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RoYCa-0006VU-63 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 05:29:40 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LY5001008EKMA00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:29:35 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.116.75]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LY50000Z957TAD0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:29:33 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20120121085905.GA3075@acm.acm> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147811 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:59:05 +0000 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , ulm@gentoo.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > Sorry, but that's a philosophical point that cannot pass without > challenge. Because fewer people are using tty environments (which is > basically what is meant here by "ASCII-only") is it really "less > important" to support them? Or is there some other reason? > > There are at least three Emacs developers who use a tty rather than a > GUI. There are users who do the same. (Why use a GUI for pure text > work, indeed?) To adapt a tty for random Unicode characters is a > non-trivial amount of work. TTY != pure-ASCII. What kind of TTY do you use that needs a "non-trivial amount of work" to support non-ASCII characters? And what that is the work which needs to be done for that?