From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:35:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83si61ezxd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150921165211.20434.28114@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <83fv27mt7r.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpvfix7i.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv23hr0z.fsf@gnu.org> <5605CB6B.4000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83twqhhf0g.fsf@gnu.org> <5606AC48.7090801@cs.ucla.edu> <83zj09fbzp.fsf@gnu.org> <5606C140.6090309@cs.ucla.edu> <878u7trwlb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5606E995.2000102@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443296187 10493 80.91.229.3 (26 Sep 2015 19:36:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 19:36:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 26 21:36:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfvGT-0006Mj-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 21:36:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54993 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfvGS-00071k-BJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 15:36:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55210) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfvGP-00071W-6Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 15:36:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfvGO-0000GP-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 15:36:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:50231) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZfvGJ-0000Ff-0T; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 15:35:59 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NVA00800U641M00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:35:57 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NVA007BOUFRXX30@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 26 Sep 2015 22:35:57 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <5606E995.2000102@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190368 Archived-At: > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 11:53:09 -0700 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Of the top 20 web sites in Japan (according to Alexa), 18 use UTF-8, > one uses Shift-JIS, and one uses EUC on their home pages. In the > w3techs survey of world web sites, 85% use UTF-8; the second > most-popular encoding, ISO-8859-1, is at only 7.5%, and it's that > high only because the old HTML standard made ISO-8859-1 the default. The relevant statistics for Emacs is of source files, not of HTML pages.