From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ASCII-only startup message? Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:55:42 +0200 Message-ID: <83si2ldzb5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <567ECD8C.1070408@cs.ucla.edu> <8360zlhy7x.fsf@gnu.org> <567EE043.9020109@cs.ucla.edu> <83y4chgh5q.fsf@gnu.org> <567EED47.1090700@cs.ucla.edu> <83si2pgci8.fsf@gnu.org> <567F22B1.9040702@cs.ucla.edu> <2dc99848-b6d5-4f53-b22c-66e29d15647c@default> <444c19cb-4687-41c4-8291-481f5b5a42a1@default> <9e93866e-c6a4-42e3-b8b2-70fd6185b25e@default> <568102D0.5030707@cs.ucla.edu> <032eb0f9-1cc3-44fa-b37b-af697c8bdc86@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451404513 21794 80.91.229.3 (29 Dec 2015 15:55:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Random832 Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 29 16:55:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDwc7-00005G-0l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:55:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49031 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDwc6-0006pH-AK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:55:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46651) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDwbs-0006p7-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:54:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDwbo-0001PP-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:54:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57579) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDwbo-0001PL-Nm; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:54:48 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4490 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aDwbo-0006Kv-3B; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:54:48 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Random832 on Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:05:55 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197086 Archived-At: > From: Random832 > Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:05:55 -0500 > > To take a step back and think about solving both problems... What > about a list of characters - to include, by default, quotation marks > and apostrophes and maybe a few other things like dashes - that are > allowed to be silently mapped to best-fit ASCII equivalents when > writing a buffer in a coding system that does not support them? That could only be an optional feature, off by default. Emacs should never change the text behind user's back, except when explicitly asked to do so.