From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages'
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 17:50:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83si0or96s.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y4ag3l7s.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Artur Malabarba on Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:04:23 -0200)
> From: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
> Cc: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>, johnw@gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:04:23 -0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Is package--save-selected-packages called every time package.el is
> > invoked, even if the user doesn't change the list of the selected
> > packages?
>
> No. But it is called every time the list changes (either by installing
> or deleting a package).
>
> > Otherwise, the user could install a package, edit their .emacs to
> > convert the custom-set-variables forms into setq, [...] like
> > they have to do with any other customization that is system-dependent.
> >
> > Will this solve the issue?
>
> No, because package.el will still call `package--save-selected-packages'
> even though the variable has been set via `setq'. This will keep
> modifying the custom file, and the behaviour will depend on whether when
> the variable's value has been most recently set from the `setq' or from
> Custom.
Then I guess this is the problem we need to solve, right? Customizing
the list of packages via Lisp that doesn't use custom-set-variables
ought to prevent Emacs from modifying the custom file.
> Meanwhile, with regular customizations, the user can just turn the
> `custom-set-variables' call into a `setq' and trust that Emacs won't
> reintroduce that variable there.
Now I'm confused: above you said "No" to my suggestion to do exactly
this, but now you seem to say that suggestion would solve the problem?
What did I miss?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-19 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-17 9:27 Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages' Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-17 23:05 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-18 1:04 ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-18 1:43 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 17:28 ` Colin Baxter
2016-02-18 17:35 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-18 18:06 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 20:34 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-18 21:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 21:49 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-19 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 9:47 ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-19 13:04 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-19 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-02-19 18:29 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-19 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 19:05 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-19 20:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 23:56 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-22 0:10 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-22 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 21:00 ` Bastian Beischer
2016-02-19 4:18 ` alex
2016-02-19 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 21:15 ` alex
2016-02-20 7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 18:25 ` Mechanisms to persist information (Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages') Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-18 18:54 ` Mechanisms to persist information Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 19:22 ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2016-02-20 2:17 ` Mechanisms to persist information (Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages') John Wiegley
2016-02-20 4:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-02-18 18:45 ` Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages' John Wiegley
2016-02-19 4:17 ` alex
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2016-02-19 9:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 22:55 ` alex
2016-02-20 8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-05 0:40 ` alex
2016-02-18 16:19 ` raman
2016-02-18 18:55 ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-18 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-02-17 3:39 Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages'? alex
2016-02-17 4:10 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-17 10:02 ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 16:52 ` Aaron Ecay
2016-02-17 12:43 ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-17 10:14 ` Colin Baxter
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