From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Change Tramp syntax (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:22:27 +0200 Message-ID: <83shmldumk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170309184457.29604.13048@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20170309184458.08C9725FCF@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87k27xfo3q.fsf@detlef> <87efy5fmml.fsf@detlef> <87mvcti5he.fsf_-_@detlef> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489159392 18568 195.159.176.226 (10 Mar 2017 15:23:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 10 16:23:07 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmMNe-0003TR-Aa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:22:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39550 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmMNk-0004pr-Bo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:23:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmMNX-0004oT-CU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:22:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmMNT-0000O8-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:22:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50255) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmMNT-0000Nt-RX; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:22:47 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4089 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cmMNS-0002HT-Uk; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 10:22:47 -0500 In-reply-to: <87mvcti5he.fsf_-_@detlef> (message from Michael Albinus on Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:14:21 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:212891 Archived-At: > From: Michael Albinus > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:14:21 +0100 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Maybe we shall start a poll, in emacs-devel, emacs-help and > tramp-devel. We should not ask what a user prefers (many of them will > prefer not to type a method). They question must be what will be broken > if we stop support for ange-ftp syntax "/host:/path/to/file". > > This would also mean, that we cannot support default methods anymore. A > file name with a default method would look like "/:host:/path/to/file", > which is already the quoted file name syntax. > > John? Eli? I didn't use ange-ftp syntax in a decade. Not sure what others do, but my impression is that Tramp methods are the only game in town.