From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:15:45 +0200 Message-ID: <83sgviu3vy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1552789070.5272.1@yandex.ru> <1552791707.5272.2@yandex.ru> <1552793646.5272.3@yandex.ru> <1552821396.21432.0@yandex.ru> <83imwhwf4x.fsf@gnu.org> <837ecvux2q.fsf@gnu.org> <9c7cf558-a2d3-951e-d6e1-31b3ad5900cf@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="103457"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, hi-angel@yandex.ru To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 19 19:18:40 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h6JJv-000Qjb-NC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:18:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33041 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6JJu-0005uo-DV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 14:18:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6JJn-0005uF-Aj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 14:18:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h6JHE-0008Az-Ao; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 14:15:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2895 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h6JHD-0002nf-KT; Tue, 19 Mar 2019 14:15:52 -0400 In-reply-to: <9c7cf558-a2d3-951e-d6e1-31b3ad5900cf@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 19 Mar 2019 16:13:53 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:234375 Archived-At: > Cc: hi-angel@yandex.ru, theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 16:13:53 +0200 > > the Savannah UI is mostly unused by everybody. Savannah UI and Savannah are not identical, far from that. > Of course not. Not every potential contributor anyway. Further, if I'm > reviewing a random patch, *I* don't know if the contribution satisfies > the CA requirements. If an automatic checking process were available, I > could just respond with "Thanks!" and merge. Such automated checking is n ot easy to set up, because the copyright assignment database includes some details that are private and cannot be exposed to public interfaces. So someone will have to come up with a service that publishes only the public parts of that, and even then there will be some rare cases where a manual check will be needed. > >> At least some of these checks could be automated on a CI. > > > > They can also be automated by Git commit hooks. It's just a matter of > > someone doing the job. > > Hooks can help, but if Emacs doesn't even allow one to *commit* a > change, it might discourage that person from continuing, or > investigating the failed requirement. We can add too many checks to > commit hooks. It is all too easy to disable/bypass the hooks, as you probably know very well. So this doesn't sound like an important issue to me. > Further, documentation could be in a separate commit It shouldn't be. > And we can't check for copyright assignment inside a git hook because > the information isn't publicly available. See above. > > And I didn't say I was against adding CI to Emacs, that wasn't at all > > the intent of my comments. I just wanted to make the issue more > > complete and balanced, because it isn't as clear-cut as the OP seemed > > to indicate in the original message. > > I think the core message is sound. He said "easier", not "easy": > > """ > migrating to gitlab should make contributions easier for bigger part of > the open-source world, peoples who used to github and gitlab > """ If that was the only sentence in that message, I probably wouldn't have responded at all. The purpose of my response was to provide a more balanced picture to those who might be unaware of the details.