From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:19:23 +0300 Message-ID: <83sgg9fm1g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83zhaih0oz.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnbegsvm.fsf@gnu.org> <83imh5hby1.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2q1fn3t.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="110244"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 12:20:08 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMaW-000Sao-5N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 12:20:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50826 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMaV-0002w7-6n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:20:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMZy-0002Tu-E3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:19:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49571) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMZx-0008JH-Rb; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:19:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2843 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMZx-0000xc-EZ; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:19:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= on Sat, 9 May 2020 11:10:09 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249390 Archived-At: > From: João Távora > Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 11:10:09 +0100 > Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel > > On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 10:56 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > What is the process of becoming :core? is that documented somewhere? > > No idea. I think we just do it for things that are convenient. > Note that :core is for one-file libs only _already_ in the Emacs tree, > and they are taken from the master branch directly. So I guess there's no such process at this time. We just have some packages that are already in core, and are _also_ available from ELPA. IOW, it's a static situation that is not designed to change. > > Then I ask again the same question: why not let these packages live on > > MELPA or in GitHub or anywhere else? What do we and the package > > maintainers gain from having these packages on ELPA? > > Well, I would say two reasons: 1. It's a staging ground, a stepping > stone where authors can experiment with Emacs dev procedures Is that really important? Why cannot the authors experiment with that while outside ELPA? > 2. We envisioned (I recall) that Emacs might one day be distributed > with some of the packages in ELPA, presumably the well behaved > ones. This would require the same requirements as we ask for inclusion in core. That doesn't seem to be happening, and AFAIU it isn't by omission.