From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:31:49 +0300 Message-ID: <83sgb9x4q2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> <20200921170740.GA3551@protected.rcdrun.com> <20200922062437.GM6402@protected.rcdrun.com> <83zh5hx5qf.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11886"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: nicola.manca85@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 22 17:55:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kKkdy-0002yF-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:55:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKkdx-0004vI-CW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 11:55:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50332) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKjKo-0007q2-9b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:32:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kKjKl-0007ye-Un; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4858 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kKjKb-00014u-IE; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 10:31:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:22:03 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256328 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:22:03 +0000 > CC: rms@gnu.org, nicola.manca85@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Jean Louis > > >You personally may find it annoying, but please keep in mind that many > >applications nowadays offer to take the user through a similar process > >first time the application is started after installation. So I > >presume many newcomers to Emacs will not be surprised by that, and > >maybe will even expect something like that. > > To make a survey online today is not so hard and not so expensive, turn advertising on and ask people to answer few questions in exchange for free software download, you can give them Emacs as award. It isn't a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact: many applications offer to configure them the first time you invoke them. I know because I install them. Any other user will see the same. That is all I was saying: that this kind of feature is quite widespread nowadays.