From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Would you say this information window is well designed? Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 20:48:38 +0200 Message-ID: <83sg5oueex.fsf@gnu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10645"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Peter Dean Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 19:50:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGIE-0002ep-AU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 19:50:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37432 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGID-0007KF-9c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:50:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGGI-0005AB-CU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:48:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60448) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGGH-00040Y-Gs; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:48:49 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1964 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lEGGG-0004JF-UB; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:48:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Peter Dean on Mon, 22 Feb 2021 18:37:20 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265494 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 18:37:20 +0000 > From: Peter Dean > > I mean is it easy to parse? Is it appealing? > > https://i.imgur.com/KIWQE60.png > > It could use some spacing (e.g. a newline after the first line > and Documentation), some colors (e.g. highlight symbols in > ‘...’), and so on. Patches are welcome for adding more colors to the *Help* buffers. As to the newline, we are discussing that, as you are well aware. > The package Helpful improves the default Help look. Some ideas > for coloring and formatting could be borrowed from it to make the > default mode more appealing, less spartan: > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Wilfred/helpful/master/screenshots/helpful.png I won't object making something like that an optional feature, but doing this by default is annoying, IMO: it's too much unsolicited info. If, after reading the doc string, I want to look up the symbol in the Info manual, I can do that with 2 keystrokes, I don't need Emacs to show it to me unconditionally.