From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A more radical cleanup for make bootstrap? Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:05:50 +0300 Message-ID: <83sfkmw8rl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bkraydzu.fsf@gnu.org> <2b1180d2e522e2571f09@heytings.org> <87pmfqlao9.fsf@yahoo.com> <831qs6xpbu.fsf@gnu.org> <87wn9yjm53.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18010"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gregory@heytings.org, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 20 16:47:07 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oaeWh-0004Kb-F5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 16:47:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35640 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oaeWg-0008AB-DQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 10:47:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oac0Y-0005kW-5y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 08:05:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oac0X-0006Qp-Is; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 08:05:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=beXmVX5AmFugJ10OP9mpBrbgOJ59dHgfBT+LtalzheI=; b=YV5FqwXxFyjq DkaEYxbE8poT+VGGlbNFw5VhlhhUYf5VVV369PHyydJJj9B0boagsBtUQmbRRfipyd6JuSIxtlsbj n0Dd0vkkwUBjID3/Vp24v1WlwMj24vCl2gO+xIK9LyVl/PXqnK2Si1AHrcTzKaEmRhtqpAp+vL2jF uMlw2igD9TQvCLFYAwpBfuxErYUh5Iedffun3gIW8Jd5L3I3BaUc8Lvpo1hL37Tvmht689Hg/Uiej lC3vxet2PoiTmI0jDJWlvSZdzNpbswmMWEVRqBOJUX67g/Fc8UawePXPHo0FXwvRdmOV0W2sYP9cN +jsm+rk1nXpbQ09oSo3BAg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=4828 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oac0V-0003QL-Th; Tue, 20 Sep 2022 08:05:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wn9yjm53.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Tue, 20 Sep 2022 19:55:20 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295805 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: gregory@heytings.org, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 19:55:20 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> It generally takes 10-15 minutes for me to build Emacs in ideal > >> conditions from "make bootstrap", with much of that time taken up by > >> building temacs. It takes longer when I am actually working on Emacs, > >> because that typically happens while my machine is already under load. > > > Why do you bootstrap? > > Because the incremental build fails and I cannot get it to work by > eyeballing what elc files to delete, usually due to an obscure > macro-expansion error in tramp. I usually have no problems identifying the offending *.elc files. And if that fails (which it does very rarely), then this never fails: $ find ./lisp -name "*.elc" -delete $ make