From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, psionik@positron.solutions, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Delegating user-reserved key binding space definition to users
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:37:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sfi3lycl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvfse3t13v.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:15:26 -0500)
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Psionic K <psionik@positron.solutions>, Emacs developers
> <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 13:15:26 -0500
>
> > Currently, the commands in major mods are bound to specific key
> > bindings. The bindings are chosen either arbitrarily, according to major
> > mode author preferences, or according to semi-established default key
> > binding scheme (like C-f/C-M-f/C-n/C-v/etc). Either way, trying to
> > re-bind commands in multiple major modes is not easy.
>
> Yup. I fully agree that it's a real problem.
>
> I'd welcome a solution to it. Even an "unrealistic" one would be good.
> Currently, I don't even know what a good solution could look like.
>
> To me a solution should allow packages to declare that command FOO
> should be bound to some key based on SOME-INFO, such that it will be
> bound to one key in "normal Emacs mode", and to another in `evil-mode`
> and to yet another in `god-mode`, etc...
>
> Some SOME-INFO needs to provide not a specific key, but some information
> from which we can compute the "natural key" that fits the keybinding
> style that the user selected.
>
> Then there are also the issues of overloading several operations on
> a single key (like TAB). So far we've solved this along the lines you
> suggest (a "generalized command", such as `indent-for-tab-command`), and
> maybe that's good enough for this, tho it prevents changing this
> overloading according to the keybinding style.
>
> [ BTW, another way to look at it is not "how can we compute which key to
> bind FOO to" but rather "how can we compute which command to run when
> KEY is hit". IOW, we could make keymaps more dynamic such that when
> you hit KEY, Emacs passes that to a "procedural keymap" which will
> *compute* (rather than lookup) which command to run, according to the
> current keybinding style.
> Not sure it would be better: I just mention it as one of the many
> things that we may want to consider in order to find a good solution
> to the problem. ]
How about adding this (and more) to etc/TODO?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-28 18:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-21 14:40 Delegating user-reserved key binding space definition to users Psionic K
2022-11-21 19:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-22 2:07 ` Phil Sainty
2022-11-25 2:48 ` Psionic K
2022-11-25 3:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-25 13:53 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-25 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-26 6:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-26 17:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-27 5:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-27 11:26 ` Psionic K
2022-11-27 11:53 ` Psionic K
2022-11-28 18:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-28 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-11-29 2:38 ` Psionic K
2022-11-29 4:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-29 5:22 ` Psionic K
2022-11-29 13:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-30 6:23 ` Psionic K
2022-11-30 9:01 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-11-30 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-29 11:54 ` John Yates
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