From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 05:30:09 +0200 Message-ID: <83sf37p4ji.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875y0i7e43.fsf@hoowl.se> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31622"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, hanno@hoowl.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 09 04:31:23 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rN2pm-00082s-FE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2024 04:31:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rN2pA-0007cV-Io; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:30:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rN2p1-0007XH-No for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:30:42 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rN2p1-0003U4-0T; Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:30:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=MleZfRLse3xQ1BjwogK8WunA+gZe6+FAXDR0NOojQlw=; b=LZ+I9v4R7KMb Q0f2l4PpILWiErw8L8iYtzVUuFv05bCY+sTVi/KbU7WVv+m0ZYsbPzBK5Gh0T8fv/jvmG/XWjNQN8 NPiuA+2gEwK/qcoYa8cOSXal/W6T4dRhxkt1IrwvycVFC2u1BxBePMD2a2ZygUWnBN35LS2vyWIj0 sCDqTluGEh4xjv3MR7/FU8w353QcGKHXmohYVxOuSo+x4E1KuVvJfmXTaOqt4I1ZffE+NKmLbzAAz pSVqevupH0zh9vufEXOhtf7laUraHVxPZNTmYe4L7XxW3T+gUmYHxQvH7cUr+qL5U7a4SfnYmdSpe ikNFyNwRnyF98BzBj+bXvQ==; In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:08:08 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314769 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: hanno@hoowl.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:08:08 -0500 > > Please do install jami-bit, but DO NOT install org-jami-bot without > some changes. Before that is installed, it needs to be changed not to > require or presuppose Org format. If org-jami-bot is specifically for doing something on top of Org, I see no problem in installing it as it is. > We have not adopted Org format as the standard Emacs format for text, > because it would not be adequate for that. Designing additional > packages to impose the use of Org format, even though they have > nothing to do with Org, pushes Emacs in a direction that is not a good > design. AFAIU, org-jami-bot _does_ have something to do with Org.