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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Excessive use of `eassert`
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:02:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sf2tv029.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwveded5vrf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 19 Jan 2024 08:01:47 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 08:01:47 -0500
> 
> >> shows that `make_lisp_symbol` is not inlined, so NILP(x) ends up being
> >> an actual function call to a function calling another function ....
> >> which I think is definitely in the "excessive" camp :-)
> >
> > I'm not sure I follow.  Can you elaborate?  Are you saying that the
> > assertion causes make_lisp_symbol not to be inlined?  And what
> > functions are called by NILP?
> 
> AFAICT it's worse than just `NILP`, I think, because every `Qnil` (same
> thing with all other `Q<something>`, I guess) becomes a call to
> `builtin_lisp_symbol` which itself has a call to `make_lisp_symbol`.

Then how come this is suddenly an issue?  We've had that assertion
since 2016.  I use an Emacs build with ENABLE_CHECKING and without
optimizations every day, and while it is indeed slower than the
production build by a factor of 3.5, it is not unbearably slow.

> >> The patch below seems to address this specific issue, tho I haven't
> >> measured its performance impact yet.
> > Is this specifically about NILP?  Or are there other situations where
> > this assertion slows us down considerably.  I wouldn't want to drop
> > this assertion so summarily, if possible.
> 
> Why do you find this specific assertion important?  When building other
> `Lisp_Object`s (like `make_fixnum`) we don't seem to have any
> corresponding assertion that the revere operation (e.g. XFIXNUM) returns
> the original value.

make_fixnum is a trivial bit-shuffling, whereas make_lisp_symbol is
much trickier.  Perhaps especially so now that we have
symbols-with-positions as well as bare symbols.

I have added Paul, who introduced that assertion (and the code around
it).  Paul, do you think this assertion is important to keep?

I also added Alan, in case he has comments.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-19 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-18 22:35 Excessive use of `eassert` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19  7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19 13:01   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 15:02     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-01-19 15:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 16:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19 17:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 19:42       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-19 19:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-21  1:41         ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21  9:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-21 20:35             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21 10:59           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-22  5:19             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-22 13:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-22 14:37               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-23  7:51                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 11:42                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-24  1:04                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-24 15:09                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-26  8:06                         ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21 15:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-22  4:12             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-22 13:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-23  8:15                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 17:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24  7:45                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 18:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-23 19:50                     ` Stefan Monnier

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