From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:45:08 +0200 Message-ID: <83r485k1qj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877gact76s.fsf@gnu.org> <34c8c13b-c5c6-4e5a-9248-b09d5d1936da@default> <87eh4hkq6c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <52D9E005.6030509@dancol.org> <52D9EEDD.9060109@dancol.org> <83wqhxk7sm.fsf@gnu.org> <52DA411E.7090800@dancol.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390041933 20925 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2014 10:45:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: per@starback.se, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 18 11:45:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4TPG-0008Am-FZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:45:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41884 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4TPG-00063t-4w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:45:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4TP6-00063b-Qg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:45:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4TP1-0006Qh-N3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:45:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:47776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4TOw-0006Q0-2x; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 05:45:18 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZL00600ETMMG00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:45:07 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZL0064LF76M920@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 12:45:07 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <52DA411E.7090800@dancol.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168663 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 00:53:50 -0800 > From: Daniel Colascione > CC: lennart.borgman@gmail.com, per@starback.se, rms@gnu.org, dak@gnu.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Is (set-window-vscroll nil 500 t) supposed to move the window > viewport? Yes and now. As I said, Emacs currently deliberately resists this, except where we explicitly allow it. > I didn't see anything change when I tried it in a quick test. See line-move-partial in simple.el for some enlightenment. Note that an editor that allows point to be off screen needs a lot of supporting functionality to make this a really useful feature.