From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:47:05 +0200 Message-ID: <83r46muzra.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ppmhecd8.fsf@yandex.ru> <87y50z90pd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87txbn8r6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8338j717oe.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjlf6tdx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83sir7yue7.fsf@gnu.org> <8761o3dlak.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <871tyqes5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87a9ddg7o8.fsf@engster.org> <87d2i9ee8t.fsf@engster.org> <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> <87vbvzcjv9.fsf@engster.org> <87iorz18fy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87a9db15v8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393660038 23083 80.91.229.3 (1 Mar 2014 07:47:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 07:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 01 08:47:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJedo-0003I4-59 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 08:47:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54580 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJedn-0001Gz-Pj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 02:47:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43028) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJedf-00018F-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 02:47:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJedZ-0002gr-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 02:47:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:56288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJedS-0002ds-P7; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 02:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N1Q00900XT0ZW00@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:44:58 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N1Q00B1KYUYTV20@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:44:58 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169972 Archived-At: > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:23:03 +0100 > Cc: Emacs developers > > ...Talking about leveraging Emacs to preserve GCC's importance is not > just about the programmers that could/would work on GCC (assuming that > by "work on GCC" you mean "working on extending GCC"; if not, my > mistake). Most C/C++ programmers that use Emacs and GCC have neither > the interest, nor the knowledge, ability or disposition to work on > GCC. If Emacs/GCC is insufficient for them and they switch to a > non-free, or less free, toolset, this is a net loss for the GNU > project, I think. Another huge advantage of my proposal to use CEDET is that CEDET and Semantic are Lisp packages, so we should need neither the knowledge nor the proficiency of GCC hackers to push in the direction we want. The largest pool of Lisp coding talents are right here.