From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rewriting bzrmerge.el Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:26:07 +0200 Message-ID: <83r3wspi9s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141027000718.F09B5382A66@snark.thyrsus.com> <87bno8y0rt.fsf_-_@engster.org> <871tp4xx4i.fsf@engster.org> <87tx20whtq.fsf@engster.org> <87lhn4rx0v.fsf@engster.org> <838uj3tztm.fsf@gnu.org> <87egsvrz6e.fsf@engster.org> <83mw7jrxt9.fsf@gnu.org> <87a93jrw83.fsf@engster.org> <83ioi7rn9o.fsf@gnu.org> <87oarysr3u.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k32mrlyn.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83zjbgprax.fsf@gnu.org> <877fyksbqq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416853582 27556 80.91.229.3 (24 Nov 2014 18:26:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 24 19:26:13 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XsyKz-0007KV-52 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:26:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53942 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsyKy-00066z-CU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:26:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53790) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsyKq-00065i-AM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:26:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsyKl-0004Mu-2O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:26:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:44396) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsyKk-0004Ml-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:25:58 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NFK001002YRDX00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:25:57 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NFK001YJ3781Q40@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:25:57 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <877fyksbqq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178198 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 03:18:53 +0900 > > > > Simply doing "git clone source-repo target-repo" uses very little > > > extra space (or time) at clone time because the objects are > > > hard-linked across directories by default. > > > > That is true (even on Windows), but then one would need to pull twice, > > once from upstream, the other time from the first clone to the second, > > right? Doesn't sound a net win to me. > > Fetching takes negligible time locally, and if you're worried about > the typing write a shell function/script or an Emacs command. I'm worried about people forgetting the 2nd fetch, and then getting themselves into trouble. > I think there's a huge amount of premature optimization going on here > (not from you: "make bootstrap" is an unacceptable time sink if you > can avoid it, finding ways to avoid it is not "premature"). Both the > space worries of people less experienced with git and the workflow > proposals of the experienced users really should be postponed until > the new git users actually run into those issues. I agree wholeheartedly.