From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 19:19:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83r3or26mi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <5581C29E.1030101@yandex.ru> <558D6A3D.1070706@yandex.ru> <877fqnzpno.fsf@gnu.org> <5590493C.8000007@yandex.ru> <87381bzife.fsf@gnu.org> <75f2fe0f-f15e-4af8-b9ae-0ddc9231c9ab@default> <83a8vi60ke.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbe64jyt.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnfx5340.fsf@gnu.org> <83ioa52km7.fsf@gnu.org> <55931641.5080705@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435767569 10856 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2015 16:19:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 16:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 01 18:19:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAKjD-00067x-2Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 18:19:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59983 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAKjC-0007sg-Bu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 12:19:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57189) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAKix-0007sL-8A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 12:19:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAKit-0007i7-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 12:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:37469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZAKit-0007hj-F7; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 12:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NQT00200HB2HH00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 19:18:53 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NQT002OOHBGEJ20@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 01 Jul 2015 19:18:53 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <55931641.5080705@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187699 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:20:49 -0700 > From: Paul Eggert > Cc: tsdh@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > dgutov@yandex.ru, acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, drew.adams@oracle.com > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Quoting `like this' > > in plain-text documents has been the GNU style for decades. > > It certainly was, but other key GNU projects have switched to quoting 'like > this' in ASCII English text files, and Emacs should do something similar. Which is why I envisioned that soon enough we will want to use in the tutorials the same quoting style as in *Help* buffers. After all, "C-h t" is a help command. In fact, a few tutorials already do that. That's why I mentioned the mirroring issue, which might become relevant.