From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unbalanced change hooks (part 2) [Documentation fix still remaining] Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 05:44:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83r3979drj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831t1wharr.fsf@gnu.org> <20160810161821.GB3413@acm.fritz.box> <83wpjofttf.fsf@gnu.org> <20160810185735.GD3413@acm.fritz.box> <20160811112951.GA2154@acm.fritz.box> <7e1478b6-cf00-fcbf-8c24-43bdaa57e2b6@dancol.org> <415d1cca-f32c-624e-a4be-9aadcf8a0f17@dancol.org> <83inujbpek.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg57bl8f.fsf@gnu.org> <5ee6ff4a-2d58-82f1-8e83-479c62f0b729@dancol.org> <837fazbjb4.fsf@gnu.org> <75100b15-d49f-5a1a-d73b-24db77c891bf@dancol.org> <831t17bged.fsf@gnu.org> <83y43fa1az.fsf@gnu.org> <0d2fb634-e268-d5cc-330c-931c6b2cd76e@dancol.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472525095 4657 195.159.176.226 (30 Aug 2016 02:44:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 02:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 30 04:44:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1beZ2e-0000bT-Te for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 04:44:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46620 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1beZ2c-0002SE-G9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:44:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1beZ2U-0002QJ-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:44:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1beZ2Q-0001HM-5s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:44:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1beZ2Q-0001H8-3F; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:44:34 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2807 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1beZ2O-00058x-S1; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:44:33 -0400 In-reply-to: <0d2fb634-e268-d5cc-330c-931c6b2cd76e@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:27:37 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206914 Archived-At: > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Daniel Colascione > Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:27:37 -0700 > > I think we fundamentally disagree about how rarity affects bug important: We've seen such fundamental disagreements before, so it's nothing new. > You: "This bug is rare. Cool. We don't have to worry about it much." > Me: "This bug is rare. That's awful. That means that people won't hit > this bug until it causes some horrible, non-reproducible problem." When the fix is risky and touches code that affects almost everything in Emacs, my method is much less likely to break important functionality for the benefit of rare cases that can be worked around or solved elsewhere.