From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 21:30:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1w2qjf9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li> <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429101755.GF24737@tuxteam.de> <838sicw4do.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhaqu89z.fsf@gnu.org> <83sggiu2p9.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1w2s9wi.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9leqmss.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="126105"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 02 20:31:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUwvd-000WiZ-7J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 20:31:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33476 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUwvc-0001cX-9w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 14:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUwu6-0007aU-T4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 14:30:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUwu6-00017g-IK; Sat, 02 May 2020 14:30:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3770 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jUwtv-0003vx-9X; Sat, 02 May 2020 14:30:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= on Sun, 3 May 2020 03:10:50 +0900) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248526 Archived-At: > From: 조성빈 > Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 03:10:50 +0900 > Cc: Stefan Monnier , > tomas@tuxteam.de, > rms@gnu.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > >>> Then "C-u C-h a WORDS..." is your friend. > >> > >> Nope, way too slow. > > > > Is that the only problem? then let's speed it up, and Bob's our uncle. > > My understanding is that slow here means that opening a new *Apropos* > buffer is an small, but additional mental burden when writing code, and > it slows down writing code. How is that different from having *Completions* pop up instead? And how is looking up the function you need a "burden", when any modern IDE provides some way of showing the possible candidates for what you want to do next? I say it isn't a burden, it's an integral part of writing code nowadays. > > Of course not! I'm saying that "regular naming" will increase the > > length of the candidate list. > > The regular naming scheme will mean that we can only search functions that > start with regexp - since the searcher doesn’t need grep-regexp-alist or > gmm-regexp-concat when trying to get regexp APIs. Do they need rx, as just one example?