From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA policy Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:24:34 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1vtflst.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> <83zhaij4qn.fsf@gnu.org> <835zd6ihns.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7wphblf.fsf@gnu.org> <875zd57e7e.fsf@randomsample> <837dxlh77o.fsf@gnu.org> <871rnt7cbd.fsf@randomsample> <834ksph5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <87wo5l5whg.fsf@randomsample> <831rnth29c.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgg95scy.fsf@randomsample> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="2408"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 12:25:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMfo-0000U2-Bf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 12:25:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54768 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMfn-00067Z-Cm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:25:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMez-0005XI-G7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:24:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMey-0005QF-VP; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:24:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3157 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMex-0001oI-Ox; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:24:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sgg95scy.fsf@randomsample> (message from David Engster on Sat, 09 May 2020 12:13:01 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249391 Archived-At: > From: David Engster > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 12:13:01 +0200 > > > I could understand if you'd say "use" instead of "recommend", > > i.e. have code in Emacs, which, if a package is installed, would use > > it. That'd actually have the package's name in our sources, and would > > constitute some kind of "endorsement". But as long as we don't use > > any of those packages, why should we care what other people like or > > don't like? > > Sorry, but you lost me there. All I'm saying is that there's a whole lot > of terrific packages out there but which we must not recommend to users, > although they are free software and often vastly superior to the things > that are built into Emacs. For instance, there's a discussion going on > about making a video showing Emacs' capabilities, but I assume we'd not > be allowed to show Magit. That's a huge loss. So package maintainers are supposed to want to be on ELPA so that they could appear in a video, or in someone's message on a GNU mailing list? Really? Once again, I wasn't asking whether it was okay or not to show off Magit in a video or promote it on this list, I was asking why do we need ELPA when MELPA is out there and has many more packages (and always will)?