From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive guide for new users Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 17:36:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1r7cba9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8620B5CD-CA92-46BF-80A8-DBE7052F4CA6@gmail.com> <83d02re2uk.fsf@gnu.org> <838sdfdzxo.fsf@gnu.org> <20200912121603.bsp53vgfwj3y62in@Ergus> <831rj7dvhg.fsf@gnu.org> <20200912131802.fiowctrzc2yx4ozu@Ergus> <83y2lfcdq2.fsf@gnu.org> <20200912141758.47dqojov5ivabwyz@Ergus> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1830"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ghe@sdf.org, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 16:36:53 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6e5-0000OY-9e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:36:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36496 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6e4-0002mW-C3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:36:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36724) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6dW-0002Mi-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:36:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6dV-0006cx-K1; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:36:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3044 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6dU-0007F7-N0; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:36:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20200912141758.47dqojov5ivabwyz@Ergus> (message from Ergus on Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:17:58 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255358 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:17:58 +0200 > From: Ergus > Cc: ghe@sdf.org, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > >We are miscommunicating. I said "similar to Company", meaning that > >the completion drops down a vertical list of candidates that overlays > >the rest of the display. AFAIK, no existing completion package offers > >something similar. > > Sorry to bother with this. But I don't see how what you describe defers > from Company. I mean, what is missing in company or what is different > from your desired behavior? Didn't yourself say that Company is not for completion in the minibuffer? Whereas we are discussing minibuffer completion? > I agree that company needs some work, maybe check the bindings and the > default colors. If Company can be used for minibuffer completion, then there's no problem. > icomplete is the best we have embedded. Maybe our best is not good enough in this case? In which case, if we want to offer newcomers an experience that they expect, we need to implement something which we don't yet have.