From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again. Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2020 17:05:00 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1qedr3n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <20201004100719.GR32715@protected.rcdrun.com> <83tuvae00i.fsf@gnu.org> <20201004135440.GA15516@protected.rcdrun.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23178"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, jamtlu@gmail.com, eduardoochs@gmail.com To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 04 16:06:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kP4eJ-0005vq-SG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 16:06:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58486 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kP4eI-0006OG-Un for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 10:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40590) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kP4dW-0005X6-47 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 10:05:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kP4dT-0004Tc-3y; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 10:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1237 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kP4dK-0000bN-Ti; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 10:05:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20201004135440.GA15516@protected.rcdrun.com> (message from Jean Louis on Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:54:40 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257027 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 16:54:40 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru, jamtlu@gmail.com, > eduardoochs@gmail.com > > > We've already agreed to look for local resources first, and only fall > > back to remote servers if the local resources don't exist. So I see > > no reason to continue arguing here if you are saying we should prefer > > local resources. And if you are really saying that we should forcibly > > prevent remote access because our users don't know what they are > > doing, then it's so far away of everything I believe in that any > > argument will be futile. > > No, I did not say, why force people not to use Internet? I am not that > crazy. Good. Then I guess we are in a violent agreement about what commands that access dictionaries should do, and we can stop arguing about things we agree upon.