From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding transient to Emacs core Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 14:51:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1ixjmaw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czuqi86o.fsf@bernoul.li> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30091"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Madhu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 26 13:52:42 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lazn7-0007TB-Ty for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 13:52:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60476 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lazn7-0003Tp-1B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lazma-0002xH-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53811) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lazma-0000mx-2V; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:52:08 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2852 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lazmZ-0001ob-E9; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:52:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Madhu on Mon, 26 Apr 2021 08:00:37 +0530) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268457 Archived-At: > From: Madhu > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 08:00:37 +0530 > > I think transient.el has serious design problems with respect to emacs. Then please describe those problems in detail, preferably in a bug report. (You allude here to some discussions you had with Jonas, but we weren't part of them, and so those references tell us nothing useful.) > Until these issues are addressed I would prefer that new code in the > core not use transient.el We cannot agree with this conclusion unless we understand the details. Thanks.