From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New GC concept Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2021 13:50:49 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1hhvr7a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1658db95-d513-7f21-8751-0e2ea38946cb@daniel-mendler.de> <06073468-e016-52af-9a84-99ef4cf00d78@dancol.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32472"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mail@daniel-mendler.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 04 12:52:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lp7R8-0008Hl-RX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:52:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56730 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lp7R7-0007XW-Im for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 04 Jun 2021 06:52:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58972) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lp7Pm-0006pc-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jun 2021 06:50:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48752) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lp7Pj-0006u0-IX; Fri, 04 Jun 2021 06:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2198 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lp7Pj-00046k-4h; Fri, 04 Jun 2021 06:50:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <06073468-e016-52af-9a84-99ef4cf00d78@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Fri, 4 Jun 2021 02:47:32 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270377 Archived-At: > From: Daniel Colascione > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 02:47:32 -0700 > > On 6/4/21 1:00 AM, Daniel Mendler wrote: > > > Interesting, thank you for working on this! > > > > I had hoped that a new GC would surface at some point given the recent > > improvements regarding native compilation. As you say this can bring > > Emacs on par with modern managed language runtimes. Can you elaborate a > > bit more of some of your concepts? > > Thanks for taking a look. Seconded. And I really hope that more than just a look (and a discussion) will come out of this. Making our GC more efficient is an important development goal, of which over the years we've seen several attempts, but unfortunately little advancement in practice. I hope interested individuals will step forward and continue developing this (or any other) initiative so that we will eventually be able to replace our GC with a better one. Thanks in advance for developing this aspect of Emacs.