From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 82ccc3a: ; Mention the previous change in NEWS Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 18:44:58 +0300 Message-ID: <83r1hce4xx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83lf7lfwc8.fsf@gnu.org> <835yyoft5k.fsf@gnu.org> <83tum8e6xb.fsf@gnu.org> <00d9453e-7f49-7f50-7017-6a518b3086ed@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27050"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 08 17:48:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lqdxf-0006jR-IL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 17:48:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60036 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqdxe-000214-C6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:48:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53366) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqdum-0008Pz-9T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:45:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqdul-0003lQ-VM; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:45:15 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3271 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lqdul-00038c-Jo; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:45:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <00d9453e-7f49-7f50-7017-6a518b3086ed@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 8 Jun 2021 18:21:19 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270570 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 18:21:19 +0300 > > Customizing grep-find-template to include a specific directory sounds > stupid: that would break rgrep and other commands that use it. > > So I probably don't understand what you meant. What I meant was that is there, and it could be used to mean something other than ".". But I don't think it's worth our while to continue developing this sub-thread, it is not important enough for the issue at hand. > >>>> xref-matches-in-directory has no known callers anymore, but any > >>>> third-party code should see the IGNORES honored better with those old > >>>> versions of 'find'. > >>> > >>> So we could say that any command which uses xref-matches-in-directory > >>> is affected. > >> > >> Is that better than saying that the variable changed? Possibly affecting > >> any code that uses it is an obvious implication. > > > > How about saying both? > > No objection from me. > > >> We can say that about xref-matches-in-directory, noting that the change > >> is likely to only be noticeable with old versions of 'find'. > > > > That'd be good, yes. > > > >> Which apparently includes macOS systems, but I'm not sure which > >> ones, and whether using "Homebrew" or not matters for this case. > > > > Maybe also some *BSD? We could mention macOS, or we could say > > something like "non-GNU Find". > > Some -- maybe. > > But I tried one or two recent FreeBSD releases in a VM, and they didn't > have that problem. So would you like me to propose the wording, or will you do it?