From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs-29 9b775ddc057 1/2: ; * etc/EGLOT-NEWS: Fix wording of last change.
Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 12:32:00 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r0rsebcf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6sofs02.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Sun, 07 May 2023 08:46:53 +0000)
> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 08:46:53 +0000
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > I think it better did, because using "U" would upgrade Eglot and
> > use-package in Emacs 28 and before. So we should give users who want
> > that the capability of keeping that workflow in Emacs 29, if only as
> > opt-in behavior.
>
> "Workflow" is really to high of a term for the problem being discussed
> here. Installing packages is not a periodical thing people to on a
> regular basis.
Since we are talking about an optional feature, it will suit this
well, I think. The target audience for this are those users who were
used to upgrade Eglot regularly when it was not a core package.
Likewise for other packages that would be brought into core in the
future.
> > Also, "/ u" should ideally show built-in packages as well, when
> > package-install-upgrade-built-in is non-nil.
>
> So the point here would be that a user who enables this option, regards
> any newer version of a core-package on ELPA as something that should be
> installed?
Yes.
> Perhaps this is a tangent, but what would happen if a third-party
> repository like MELPA adds a package with the same name as a core
> package?
This problem exists today already, with non-core packages. Right?
> > Philip, can these two changes be implemented safely for Emacs 29?
>
> It certainly can be done.
I'd appreciate if you could show a patch that we could then consider.
TIA.
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2023-05-06 10:14 ` emacs-29 9b775ddc057 1/2: ; * etc/EGLOT-NEWS: Fix wording of last change Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 10:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 13:03 ` João Távora
2023-05-06 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 13:48 ` João Távora
2023-05-06 14:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 15:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 15:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 18:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 7:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 19:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 20:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 20:52 ` João Távora
2023-05-07 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 8:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 9:32 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-05-07 17:16 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 19:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 19:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-08 11:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-08 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-08 13:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-08 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-10 6:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-10 11:03 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-10 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-10 15:02 ` Ruijie Yu via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-11 7:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-10 22:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-11 7:26 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-11 9:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-11 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 6:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 20:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-08 11:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-08 21:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-12 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 9:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-07 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 16:58 ` João Távora
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