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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs-29 9b775ddc057 1/2: ; * etc/EGLOT-NEWS: Fix wording of last change.
Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 12:32:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r0rsebcf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6sofs02.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Sun, 07 May 2023 08:46:53 +0000)

> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>,  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
>   emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 08:46:53 +0000
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > I think it better did, because using "U" would upgrade Eglot and
> > use-package in Emacs 28 and before.  So we should give users who want
> > that the capability of keeping that workflow in Emacs 29, if only as
> > opt-in behavior.
> 
> "Workflow" is really to high of a term for the problem being discussed
> here.  Installing packages is not a periodical thing people to on a
> regular basis.

Since we are talking about an optional feature, it will suit this
well, I think.  The target audience for this are those users who were
used to upgrade Eglot regularly when it was not a core package.
Likewise for other packages that would be brought into core in the
future.

> > Also, "/ u" should ideally show built-in packages as well, when
> > package-install-upgrade-built-in is non-nil.
> 
> So the point here would be that a user who enables this option, regards
> any newer version of a core-package on ELPA as something that should be
> installed?

Yes.

> Perhaps this is a tangent, but what would happen if a third-party
> repository like MELPA adds a package with the same name as a core
> package?

This problem exists today already, with non-core packages.  Right?

> > Philip, can these two changes be implemented safely for Emacs 29?
> 
> It certainly can be done.

I'd appreciate if you could show a patch that we could then consider.
TIA.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-07  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-05-06 10:14   ` emacs-29 9b775ddc057 1/2: ; * etc/EGLOT-NEWS: Fix wording of last change Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 10:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 10:46       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 10:53         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 13:03           ` João Távora
2023-05-06 13:22             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 13:48               ` João Távora
2023-05-06 14:11                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 14:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 15:28                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 15:26               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 15:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 15:54                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 16:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 18:44                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:08                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07  7:43                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-06 19:15                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 19:14                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 19:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 20:31                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-06 20:52                             ` João Távora
2023-05-07  5:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07  8:46                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07  9:32                                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-05-07 17:16                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 18:32                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 19:24                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 19:32                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07 19:44                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-08 11:19                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12 12:35                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-08 11:20                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-08 13:34                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-08 13:44                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-10  6:59                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-10 11:03                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-10 14:06                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-10 15:02                                                       ` Ruijie Yu via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-11  7:29                                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-10 22:19                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-11  7:26                                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-11  9:43                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-11 10:46                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-12  6:43                                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-07 20:36                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-08 11:24                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-08 21:39                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-12 12:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-07  9:50                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-05-07 10:55                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-06 16:58                 ` João Távora

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