From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 16:08:34 +0300 Message-ID: <83r0nb1mb1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83msyemjx8.fsf@gnu.org> <871qfpoij6.fsf@gnu.org> <87fs45ivyo.fsf@localhost> <87h6okga15.fsf@localhost> <87cyz61cbp.fsf@localhost> <87v8cuqtkr.fsf@localhost> <87sf7rsfpd.fsf@localhost> <8334zr32ih.fsf@gnu.org> <87edjbsc8k.fsf@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35512"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 06 15:09:33 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qdsHl-000901-A5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 15:09:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qdsHA-0000uD-NO; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 09:08:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qdsH9-0000p0-E7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 09:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qdsH9-0004EU-1Q; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 09:08:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=vgFuKnrk6YhkApfJ1MXSTiqWBqJEawjL5dl1XK2hiVE=; b=ZWAXn2uIcwHS bG/IodMjeIimyDQ0PK0zagmrociS13afYixbMrygClGT8Vd6S51LOUNDARs9zroySLIHqeh1qZE1H yXBY9yId0oe37cNpukT90QYXwJURCnuXRZWKDNqomBR548XQhUjufIF+Ze2BbHSFH4AJgYIf99pqL lvfLVE2eDG0SmIxGhs1LVqEJl3jJr1tI6S/TSstSwWh/3tDE1JCbuf15g31BX3UHmvdSs2IqeP0cg lN/P9PYUBlGDhxnAMqhEd71SHQG/euwQTgUAbMIqR5M3Hn4AHeKNp2NVmewWyTRRgSSoRL2dwG6nE gsyB7svDaiYaH+kJPKlBHw==; In-Reply-To: <87edjbsc8k.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Wed, 06 Sep 2023 12:43:55 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310199 Archived-At: > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 12:43:55 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> I think I need to clarify. This is how export to info works _now_. > >> However, nothing stops us from implementing direct export org->info > >> without intermediate org->texi step. Someone just needs to do this job. > > > > Unless the implementation will somehow invoke texi2any under the hood, > > this would mean a separate implementation of texi2any in Emacs Lisp, > > Yes. We already have org2pdf, org2ascii, org2html, but not org2info. > > > something that I don't recommend: it will need to play a constant > > catchup game with the Texinfo development, and it will be probably > > quite slow. > > I am not sure about catchup game. Unless Texinfo drastically changes the > output format, we can simply provide default settings to replicate the > Texinfo look of the produced html/pdf/plaintext/info files. Not the output format, but the language: new directives and sometimes markup are added with every release of Texinfo. Just read their NEWS file. > As for being slow, it is already not the case. Last time we discussed > Org export being slow, I have managed to speed things up on par with > Texinfo timings on Org manual. That was for Org-to-Texinfo conversion. Here we are talking about Org-to-Info, which is much more work.