From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 15:39:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83r0mucp60.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87il8betof.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87jzspcgc9.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87wmwmxvag.fsf@dataswamp.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9273"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 19 14:40:05 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qia1L-0002AB-QC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qia1A-000296-II; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 08:39:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qia17-00028q-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 08:39:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qia16-0001Vo-3X; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 08:39:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=XXF0jGhyJtdOlemL0vRJv7onvUOMaNZS+rzBIwb0W+4=; b=IHla9kchxqbv PP9uhZh/+69Q5LEx6KE3WVIaS431I52Qv6TRE385yB1Q/9WC75jP7WijzKBX8HxZ5KeIROTjVeLIq CyR5UlMYselYVroYsE5C+FX4bprMnNkYzwZbXnxITH6KzHtKtxpIwGnVWmORYz8pZ4y17tJCF0DAU MSQs1/qielf7re4mit+9md19HLYd3AN0TR0LazMeXQMsCM9bnahI5+uYOql4ZrcMAEJZmA58Jwxzv STCfnF7ms7cI7d618N3mVc0tTLR7f2eym5M3cDla3/6fCVo1eiawRDSMlIpeT1uUAFKGdpq51Boda BlbWcEnoMsRnT2z/n+5oMw==; In-Reply-To: <87wmwmxvag.fsf@dataswamp.org> (message from Emanuel Berg on Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:21:59 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310757 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:21:59 +0200 > > for programmers the complexity increase from non-cl-lib Elisp to > cl-lib is pretty much negligible? No, it isn't. There's quite a lot of different syntax and semantics that need to be learned and mastered.