From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 10:55:24 +0300 Message-ID: <83r0lrm4gj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87il8betof.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83fs3dgxv8.fsf@gnu.org> <835y38qvlg.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkcx6eci.fsf@dataswamp.org> <8734y7p7sz.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83v8b3mcuj.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzrjvze8.fsf@gmx.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25637"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 19 09:56:25 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qtNtJ-0006PC-Qs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:56:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtNsb-0007CF-1h; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 03:55:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtNsW-0007Bx-T6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 03:55:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtNsU-0002Px-SJ; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 03:55:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ZYR6nLfhApWt2RxLkA2RvNVFTCSXvPMyEgZiY+3bMEw=; b=iEc1aUTKZNto 8MUHx1MJHUqaFteLmFoyEy+AzEPrm2Bp4Hxs1d9AVQ0fY2nHQpI1UU1KKBTFGi6k2XlpGo4G6LTQA dO38RKNw7u9rjQ7J5RaqLqoLIymCus8tj7sDHB6HKqCrPHaGCWibB8eyIajJhDuU58VLGyEAiNsAI HFpNXUhxNDbnEvpF/LAiuz5ds/AQ0dDL/gl0EWD08tWguzJJ7yAbq7CTPT5dc2sm/zSy6yjXVeLzS 2FSrM80sd3IYLghZ9JuN2rZcDXSFZt7IQpm2GnRLOSdwhkT6CjdqLjhtfUTIog/n1mi5QQqVeyUzR mN6pvgqy7JiaUWdlIJPfHA==; In-Reply-To: <87jzrjvze8.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:34:39 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311579 Archived-At: > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: Emanuel Berg , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:34:39 +0200 > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 07:54:12 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > (featurep 'cl-lib) => nil > > > > both in GUI and TTY (i.e. -nw) sessions. > > I also get this in a freshly updated build from master both with -Q and > with -Q -nw. In a freshly updated build from emacs-29 I also get it > with -Q -nw, but with just -Q (i.e. the GUI) it returns `t', and > evaluating `features' returns (time-date subr-x cl-loaddefs cl-lib > rmc...). And in a GUI build from master from October 8, (featurep > 'cl-lib) returns `t' and features returns (time-date subr-x cl-loaddefs > cl-lib rmc...). Please try figuring out what loads cl-lib in your case, as I cannot reproduce this with the latest emacs-29 branch.