From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX. Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:59:21 +0200 Message-ID: <83pr371rl2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268539169 5571 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2010 03:59:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, cloos@jhcloos.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 14 04:59:24 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nqez5-0004r0-AS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:59:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54467 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nqez5-0007jq-0Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:59:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nqez0-0007j1-Ch for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:59:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33817 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nqeyz-0007iA-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:59:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nqeyx-00019w-BB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:59:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:54966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nqeyx-00019i-4Y; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:59:15 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KZ9001006ZX3000@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:59:13 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.214.230]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KZ9001PR72O1U00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:59:13 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121936 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:02:51 -0500 > Cc: cloos@jhcloos.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Beyond a certain point, conflicting with users' expectations does more > harm than good. But, you can do > > (set-scroll-bar-mode 'left) > > or Options -> Show/Hide -> Scroll Bar -> On the Left. > > Why choose anything other than the most convenient setting > as the default? The problem is with how ``convenient'' is decided. I suspect most users nowadays will say that having the scroll bar on the right is the most ``convenient''. (I don't share that view, but I use the scroll bar so little that my opinion hardly matters either way.)