From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should we just start dumping cl-lib? Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:18:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83pp0x5p7q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <560E0DA7.6080305@dancol.org> <87twq9ebmh.fsf@udel.edu> <83y4fl5qqi.fsf@gnu.org> <20151002141452.GA9215@holos> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443800242 13114 80.91.229.3 (2 Oct 2015 15:37:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mark Oteiza Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 02 17:37:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi2OV-0003r3-4U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:37:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60887 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi2OU-0006KP-E0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 11:37:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37571) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi1A6-00086C-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:18:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi1A2-0001C7-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:18:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:55512) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zi1A2-0001Bw-D2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:18:10 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NVL00B00JEL1S00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:18:09 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NVL00BPVJQ81C20@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 17:18:09 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20151002141452.GA9215@holos> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190701 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:14:52 -0400 > From: Mark Oteiza > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Regarding the breakage with winner.el, I don't understand why under some > circumstances nothing seems to break if cl- functions are used at > runtime in things with only `(eval-when-compile (require 'cl-lib))`. For > instance, git-grepping for 'cl-remove-if' I see package.el and > checkdoc.el don't require cl-lib at runtime. Are the cl-lib functions they use auto-loaded, perhaps?