From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Character folding in the pretest Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 17:39:18 +0200 Message-ID: <83powdyfa1.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454514007 13523 80.91.229.3 (3 Feb 2016 15:40:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 15:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Per =?utf-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 03 16:40:00 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aQzXC-0000S2-Ol for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 16:39:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35657 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aQzXB-0002EI-VX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 10:39:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aQzWt-0002Du-J2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 10:39:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aQzWq-000865-ND for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 10:39:39 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aQzWq-00085q-HD; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 10:39:36 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3057 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aQzWp-0004K9-Kk; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 10:39:36 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Per =?utf-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck?= on Wed, 3 Feb 2016 01:31:11 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199235 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 01:31:11 +0100 > From: Per Starbäck > > Eli thought that it should remain turned on in the pretest to get more > testing: > > The entire time interval between Nov 15 this year and until we release > > Emacs 25.1 (which will take a few months, probably more than 6, > > judging by past experience) is supposed to provide that feedback. All > > it takes to turn this off by default is changing the default value of > > a single variable (and change a couple of places in the User Manual to > > reflect that). Once we decide to do that, it can be done very quickly > > and easily. We can do that a day before the release, if we want to. > > > > OTOH, turning it off today means that it will get much less testing, > > and therefore bugs related to it (like the one reported just today in > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=22090) will most probably > > remain hidden for who knows how long. > > It's time to make that decision now. IMO, it's too early for that. As I said in the quote above, the time interval for the feedback can go on until very close to the release. That time is still far away. The pretest just started less than a week ago, and no new opinions were heard yet. Let us collect the feedback for a bit more than just a couple of days. If someone wants to start a poll somewhere, please do, it will allow us to collect more data and make better decisions. If not, we will have to go with what will be written here and on other relevant forums. > Also, please please add a checkbox for character folding just above or > below the one for case folding in the Options menu!! Indeed, patches are welcome for such an addition. (Lax whitespace option probably needs a similar option.) Thanks.