From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add autoload cookies in seq.el Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 18:28:41 +0300 Message-ID: <83poq5wv2u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877fepcezr.fsf@petton.fr> <83k2ip83qx.fsf@gnu.org> <83y4737vmf.fsf@gnu.org> <83mvlcz6jr.fsf@gnu.org> <871t2n5a88.fsf@web.de> <87r3al90el.fsf@petton.fr> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469201354 9570 80.91.229.3 (22 Jul 2016 15:29:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nicolas Petton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 22 17:29:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bQcO1-0007eT-Hz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:29:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47966 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQcO0-0004Zy-T7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36881) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQcNV-0004Zq-4k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQcNP-0003Fi-33 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:28:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41168) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQcNO-0003Fe-Vt; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:28:35 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1789 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bQcNN-0002P6-Om; Fri, 22 Jul 2016 11:28:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <87r3al90el.fsf@petton.fr> (message from Nicolas Petton on Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:07:30 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206038 Archived-At: > From: Nicolas Petton > Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 17:07:30 +0200 > > BTW, I don't know if seq.el should be preloaded or not, but if it is, > I'd preload map.el as well, they go hand in hand for different data > structures. Once again, we don't decide on preloading a package by these criteria. A package needs to be _needed_ by preloaded code before it becomes a candidate for preloading. Its general utility, by itself, is irrelevant. IOW, having a package not preloaded doesn't make it second-class in any way. I wonder where this idea came from. It is profoundly false. By that logic, Dired is not first-class citizen.