From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFE] Migration to gitlab Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 21:03:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83pnqkt5ht.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1552789070.5272.1@yandex.ru> <1552791707.5272.2@yandex.ru> <1552793646.5272.3@yandex.ru> <1552821396.21432.0@yandex.ru> <83imwhwf4x.fsf@gnu.org> <837ecvux2q.fsf@gnu.org> <9c7cf558-a2d3-951e-d6e1-31b3ad5900cf@yandex.ru> <1553064994.13109.0@yandex.ru> <831s32t3fn.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="229008"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: tadeus.prastowo@unitn.it, theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, hi-angel@yandex.ru, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 21 20:11:59 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1h736b-000xRK-Mj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 20:11:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45395 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h736a-0006CN-NF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:11:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53678) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h735X-00063v-TJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h72yF-0001Hj-6r; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:03:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4960 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1h72yD-0000Cs-LD; Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:03:18 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Philippe Vaucher on Thu, 21 Mar 2019 18:54:32 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:234477 Archived-At: > From: Philippe Vaucher > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 18:54:32 +0100 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Tim Cross , > Dmitry Gutov , Konstantin Kharlamov , > Emacs developers > > If the Emacs maintainers decide not to add the gitlab workflow it's fine by me, I'm not on a quest to convince > everyone. I think you should, but I understand if you don't. Such significant changes in our processes cannot be done by "deciding". It's a large job that needs motivated individuals to do it. Doing it also requires first-hand knowledge of our maintenance procedures and special needs. So if someone wants to make this happen, I urge you to come on board, get involved in maintenance, collect some real-life experience in routine development and maintenance tasks, and then lead the change, doing most of the work yourself. And yes, Savannah will most probably be a large part of the equation, so you will need their cooperation as well.