From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: encode-time vs decode-time Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 17:47:18 +0300 Message-ID: <83pnlhav7t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <502b23f8-58ed-38ff-ae50-fae391129a10@cs.ucla.edu> <87v9viuivo.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <83blx2cr2o.fsf@gnu.org> <8336iecfvr.fsf@gnu.org> <68d24d6a-d427-baef-27e9-ea1cbbd64c18@cs.ucla.edu> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="4483"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 07 16:50:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hvNGT-00014P-V7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 16:50:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42052 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvNGR-0000Nm-T8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvNDr-0005qy-JM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:47:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45809) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hvNDr-0005w0-Ba; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:47:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2686 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hvNDq-000495-QN; Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:47:27 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 06 Aug 2019 22:41:36 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239224 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 22:41:36 -0400 > > Actually, while I agree that it's possible it will break something > somewhere, it's rather unlikely. I think our record of making such predictions is rather poor. And anyway, suppose someone comes up with complaints about this change: what exactly do we say in response? The reason for the change is quite weak: it's basically an enhancement required by somewhat rare niche use cases. How can we justify breaking someone's code on such weak grounds?